Posts Tagged ‘Cain’

Nightlife Crazies: Rip Van Winkle Visits Cain

Tuesday, June 24th, 2008

This week’s nightlife crazy award goes to the lovely narcoleptic boy I saw in Chelsea. The young lad managed to sleep through the night undisturbed, despite his bed being the rowdy, center floor table of Cain. The music wailed at deafening megawatts while drunken revelers celebrated Friday’s long anticipated arrival with stomps and cheers. Neither this, nor the bountiful leaps of the young man in red and white sneakers beside his head, woke our Rip Van Winkle.

Napping boy was evicted onto the 27th street sidewalk around the same time my roommate and I voluntarily left. He was still half-asleep and seemed ready to spoon with the nearby dumpster. Having drank, danced, and hovered over his snoozing body for the past two hours at the adjacent table, I felt a kinship toward the fellow and tried to halt the trash can spooning process and help him into a cab.

Every time my roommate and I prompted the boy with questions like, “Where do you live?” and “Can you say your address?” he would only slur back crudities and bark that he wanted to be left alone. He consistently mumbled something about “calling Jim” and in clumsy slumber, immediately dropped his cell phone the moment he located it. Even after we retrieved and returned his phone, Rip Van Winkle continued to rudely shun our assistance. At this point, we gave up and scurried into a taxi ourselves, hoping this “Jim” character wasn’t an utter deadbeat and might eventually come to his friend’s rescue.

If you saw a sweet blonde boy sleeping with a trashcan on 27th street this weekend, you now know the whole story.

Feature Interview with Nightclub Drummer Stu Damm

Friday, May 23rd, 2008

Ever notice that almost every trendy nightclub you set foot in throughout New York City has one, if not many, drummers pounding away, pumping up the crowd? I’ve started to take these party extras for granted, but the reality is that drummers in commercial clubs is a nightlife phenomenon that went from nonexistent to noteworthy just in the past few years. Clubbers accepted it, thrilled in it, and quickly welcomed these musicians at their dance floors and tables. Since then, no one’s stopped dancing long enough to analyze what this trend is all about! So I left my party shoes behind and sat down with Stu, one of New York’s most elite nightclub drummers, to pick his brain on the topic. Not only did I get a unique insider perspective on New York nightlife, I got a crash course in music as well!

Enjoy!

When did drummers in nightclubs become hot?

I’d say five or six years ago. I’ve been doing this for six years now, but it was already a kind of a thing when I started doing it. Now you see more and more of it all the time.

Is there a country that started it?

I don’t really know. I just figure everything comes from London (laughs) but I could be wrong.

Is there a particular club in New York that launched the trend?

Yes. I think the old Pangaea.

Oh! I used to go to Pangaea in London.

There you go.

And what kind of music are club drummers associated with?

Mostly house. That’s the most live drum friendly music.

Now I say I like house music, but I know house music is actually extremely complex with all these different subcategories. Can you explain some of the different kinds?

You’ve got the earthy house, I don’t know what the exact name for it is really, but you’ve got real sampled instruments, piano, singing thrown in there. It’s not so electronic and techno sounding. And that’s more drum friendly. Then you have the techno thing which is sharper, and it’s harder to get in there with a big sound and a live instrument. There’s also hip hop. I love playing drums over hip hop, but that’s harder to do because there’s so much space and you don’t want to just bash away. You want to blend in and pick your spots, but it’s so slow you’ve gotta really know what you’re doing.

What does a drummer bring to a party?

Energy. It’s a live musician. And drums are an exciting instrument to watch someone play. It’s a creative expression, and sometimes you don’t get that from the music itself unless you’ve got a really great DJ who can mix something really well.

What are the different kinds of nightlife drummers? I know there are the guys running around playing the bongos, but you were one of the first drummers I saw still with a complete set up and symbols and everything.

Yeah, well there aren’t many of us. (laughs) There are the guys who play the African djembe drum and they walk around with just that one drum. And I like that. That’s awesome. But I’ve been a drum set player all my life. So I have more cymbals and bongos, more Latin percussion instead of African. I’m more Latin, Afro-Cuban I guess you could say.

So would you say the trend started with the djembe guys?

Yeah. Although way back I saw more drummers with a rig than now.

Were you one of the first in New York clubs?

I’m not sure. Definitely one of the first ten. (laughs)

Now it seems clubs like having a sax and guitar player too. What’s this all about?

I think it’s because back in the old times clubs had shows, musicians and performances. Look at “I Love Lucy.” And then it got narrower and narrower to where you’re just packing people in with a DJ. I think now we’re back to maybe wanting more performance oriented things. And I think drumming is probably the easiest way to get in there, then sax and guitar. I’ve played with an electric violin player too, which was great.

And how do all of you collaborate? Do you talk before hand? Do you all rehearse?

(Laughs) No, No. There’s never any rehearsal. It depends on the musician. If you get someone who just wants to wail on his drum or guitar and not listen to anybody else, then you’re not going to do much collaborating. But I like to listen to what they’re doing and give them play. If you’re with other good musicians, you’ll understand what one another is doing.

So how do you know when to bang on the drums and how do you know when to stop?

Instinct. It’s all about what the music sounds like. Where can I fit something in? Does it need anything? Should I play on the beat? Play around the beat?

That’s improv, right? Technically, you’re improving the entire night.

Yeah. The entire night. I’ve played some songs so many times that I’ve developed some sort of routine, but it was never on purpose. I like to think of it as a wave. The DJ’s sort of the band. He’ll come up and get louder and louder and cut out. There’ll be that airy sound before he gets faster and faster to where the pounding beat comes back in. And I like to go underneath him with my volume like a wave, and when the music hits its peak, I like to crash over the top, playing louder and then backing down again.

Can a drummer make a party worse?

Yeah. If you’re not a good musician. If you play out of time. It just sounds like a mess. (laughs) Hopefully, that’s not me.

Tell me about how you started as a musician and how you started working in clubs.

I started piano when I was six, drums when I was eight. I’ve been playing drums all my life. I went to music school. I played in bands forever. Ten thousand bands. Then I was working at a stereo store. A promoter shopped there and he always asked me to come to his parties. I’d never been to a club in my life. He’d always invite me and I’d never go. I didn’t think I belonged in a club. I’m more of a rock, dive, CBGBs type of guy. I also always had paying gigs on the night he had his parties. So finally he said, “Why don’t you come, bring your drums, and I’ll pay you.” And I said “Really?!?” But a gig’s a gig.

And what club was this?

Dorsia.

And what was that first experience like?

Awkward and weird. I’d never been to a club before. It was a whole new experience for me. So I started playing and just tried to think about not annoying people, blending into the music, and trying to do something cool by listening to what was there. And by the end of the night, after a few drinks and a few girls getting into it, I started to get more comfortable until I got more and more gigs, getting hired at other clubs. And here we are.

So how much of this nightlife stuff takes up your work now?

I was doing four nights a week at one point. While it doesn’t sound like a lot, you’re playing for four hours with very few breaks. You’re going all night. It was rough, but I loved it. And it paid more than the blues and R&B gigs I was getting.

And what are the pros and cons of working in nightlife like that?

Pros are that I was thrown into New York City nightlife without any of the waiting in line. It was a whole new experience and whole new set of people I met. It was overwhelming in a very cool way for awhile. I loved it. It was something new. It was glittery. It was shiny. The girls were pretty. (laughs)

Girls love the drummer, just tell me.

Yeah. (laughs) Girls love the drummer.

And any cons?

You can get sucked in to a black hole of partying all night. Playing till four, then the after party. Next thing you know you don’t see daylight anymore. You’re a vampire. And you start to lack balance.

So when you did that four nights a week thing, what was your schedule?

Cain. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

What other clubs have you played at?

Groove Jet, Flo, Latin night at B Low, Dorsia, Room Service, PM, and some others that I forget.

Do you have a favorite? A least favorite?

I played at the Versace Mansion through Cain. I loved that. But I’d say Cain. Not just because I work there, but because of the atmosphere: the wood pillars and the South African vibe. I like the whole scene, the staff. The security guys there are the coolest.

They protect you from all the girls?

(Laughs) They don’t mind doing that.

Something you love about New York nightlife:

I love the action. You can do any kind of style, any kind of vibe. You’ve got everything and people from all over the world.

Something you hate:

Yeah: Lindsay Lohan (laughs). Nah, people get snooty and uppity sometimes. I like open minded people.

Favorite place to chill in the city:

National Underground which is a new spot on Houston and Allen. It’s a bluesy, rockish, folk place. They have some really nice nooks and a brick cavernous thing down there. It looks like a mafia, speakeasy, Al Capone-type hang. And then I like Lit on 2nd avenue near 6th street. The downstairs, not the upstairs.

So that’s where we’ll find you on your nights off. Favorite drink?

Uh. Beer. (laughs)

What’s your inspiration drink while drumming?

Vodka cranberry. But that’s not because it’s my favorite. It’s just what gets handed to me all the time.

Craziest drumming nightlife experience?

I was playing at PM where they’d made a little stage which was three feet wide. They’d attached it to a runway which was attached to a wall. A wall of white cinderblock – so I had to climb it. I’d climb the wall and jump down in time with the music when the DJ would peak.

To hit the drums?

Yeah. Onto the stage from the wall. I wouldn’t climb very high but one night it was the owner’s birthday and I had a bit too much champagne before I started playing. I started climbing all the way up to the next floor and jumping down. I climbed too high and I didn’t make it on the way down.

So you’re hitting the drum with your whole falling body force?

Yeah. Oh yeah. I’d land on the stage while I’m playing. At the same time. But I didn’t make it this once. One leg hit the stage, the other didn’t, and I just fell off the side. I fell hard. And everyone watched me. (laughs)

Future plans?

My band’s The Matters of Circumstance (check out and listen here!). It’s acoustic / electric rock, kinda poppy, but it’s deep stuff as far as lyrically and musically. We have a base player and two guitar playing singers from Barbados. We’re going down there to make a record and then hopefully do some touring. And keep playing in nightclubs!

Cain: No Longer Pristine but Never a Pain

Thursday, May 1st, 2008


Ah, Cain.

This is one of those nightlife establishments my heart goes out to. It’s like that really popular kid in high school who had the world at his finger tips, but ultimately ended up staying in his home town, teaching local soccer, and living in his mother’s basement.

This isn’t exactly a negative: Who doesn’t like the comforts of their childhood home’s basement?

The point is that years ago, Cain opened as the hottest thing on the block. I remember it being notoriously hard to get into. I used to quake in my heels at the door thinking about how threatening long-haired euros wielding clipboards looked. And everyone was wowed by their animal head and safari theme.


This was long before Goldbar’s impressive skulls and 1Oak’s ridiculously expensive engraved walls entered the picture, upping club’s decorating requirements significantly. Cain was hot. They had girls in zebra bikinis convulsing on white sides of the club that resembled caravan sheaths, they had drummers in abundance, they had struck an exquisite balance in music that managed to be tribal yet commercial. And who didn’t like their sexy, high ceilinged individual bathrooms? The club reminded me of Pangaea in London, and for that reason alone, I doted on it.

Around the same time, spots like Guest House and Home sprouted up. Twenty seventh street experienced a glorious run, then that dude fell down the elevator shaft of Bed, and the underage girl at Guest House was found chopped up in a dumpster. Consequently, establishments started carding and the street lost some of its shine. Soon it was clear Cain’s owners favored their sparkly, lounge-like younger child Goldbar, and Cain began to feel like an after-thought. The neglected older sibling.

That doesn’t mean there still isn’t fun to be had at Cain. I did a swing through last weekend, and while much has changed (the drummer’s now stationary, the music’s more hip hop, the door’s less daunting) I found the vibe enjoyable and fun.

Why?

Because the club’s lost its pretentiousness. It’s been dethroned. And the benefit of no longer being the coolest kid on the block is that your staff can lose some of the attitude and everyone can stop taking themselves so seriously. The atmosphere becomes laid back, dare I say – relaxing. Yes many of us are masochists who want to go out to be treated like shit only to savor the victory of knowing you achieved entrance into the hottest new place. But I don’t think anyone could categorize Cain’s transformation into kinder, more approachable creature as a ‘bad’ thing. And another animal is entering the Goldbar-Cain family. Cain Downtown in the SoHo area is officially in development. So those of you that enjoy lines, celebrity sightings and doorman abuse should be prepared to shimmy over there.

Miss Model Behavior’s the new nightlife writer for theBlaqlist.com. Feel free to post any nightlife comments or questions on our forum or contact her at MissModelBehavior@theBlaqlist.com